Most business owners say they want more sales. What they actually want is predictable sales. And in hospitality right now? Predictability is basically a fantasy.
Whitney sits down with Ryan Thomas, Director of Sales and Marketing at The Camby in Phoenix, to talk about what it really looks like to drive revenue when customers book at the last minute, ownership wants answers, and the market won’t sit still. Ryan shares his unconventional path into hospitality, how COVID reshaped buyer behavior for good, and why “just sell more rooms” is not a strategy.
They dig into the tension between revenue management and marketing, the reality of leading in uncertainty, and what it takes to build trust with ownership groups when you don’t control the economy—or consumer confidence. There’s also a sharp conversation about emerging markets and why unique experiences aren’t fluff—they’re survival.
If you run a business that depends on demand showing up consistently, this episode will feel very familiar.
In This Episode, We Cover:
- Why last-minute buying behavior is forcing businesses to rethink forecasting and revenue strategy
- The real relationship between sales and marketing—and why they can’t operate in silos
- How to build credibility with ownership or stakeholders when results aren’t fully in your control
- Creative positioning in saturated markets (without slashing prices)
- What hospitality can teach every business about adaptability and guest experience
The market isn’t getting more predictable anytime soon. But your strategy can get sharper.
If this episode gave you clarity (or at least made you feel less alone), subscribe, leave a review, and connect with Whitney. She’s here to help you build a brand that holds up—even when the market doesn’t.


